Topic #2. Can Black/White Realtionships Work, Longterm?
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51. Proteus
Fri, Sep 24, 1999 - 5:02 PM/EST

I must continue to process my thoughts on most of your ideas....I'm not quite sure what to make of it...my instinct is to say that it is stupid...however, you are obviously an intelligent person and I think that I owe you the respect to process the concepts and get back to you. However, one thing that I can say now...I study Sociology and have read the latest research on criminal activity and the statistical facts behind crime rates (so, you know I'm not making it up! =0D). Anyway, this is in response to the idea that black people kill each(only for the States)everyday. Yes, it is true, black people do kill each other. The same way that white people do. Actually according to the latest research, more white people kill each other than blacks. However, because there are more whites than blacks the numbers are ridiculously high. If they were to make the numbers comparable we would see that blacks kill less of themselves than whites do. This is just one of the ways that past researchers "proved" the insuperiority of blacks..."hey they kill more of themselves than whites". However, recent researchers have sought to prove that it is indeed misinforming society....and I beleive in currect research they inform the reader that the numbers are not comparable.

I'll get back to you on the other ideas.

Just wanted to let you know, I don't think it's like that in Africa....but that is the

52. Proteus..one more thing
Fri, Sep 24, 1999 - 5:12 PM/EST

So, if you are going to ask why blacks continuosly kill each other on a daily basis, you must also question why whites do it. It is not fair nor it is right to put all of the emphasis on blacks. By doing so you are enforcing the negative stereotype, which has been continuosly exagerated for many years...for example most people have been led to believe that most of the people on welfare are black women/families with five or six kids. Actually most are white women with two to three kids. Once again, the facts have been taken out of context and altered to fit a negative stereotype.

53. Here's my Malcom X Speech....
Fri, Sep 24, 1999 - 6:13 PM/EST

Yes, there are educated blacks!

Yes, blacks have gotten some unfair breaks!

Yes, blacks are disenfranchised!

Yes, there have been significant contributions to society engineered by blacks!

I can site a dozen examples of black people who contradict everything I've said. But they're the EXCEPTION, I'm speaking in terms of the race as a WHOLE.

I FEEL...

Every race can cry "foul play" about something for some past greivance or injustice...

It's like a triathlon, or chessgame; in the end there's a winner and a loser, and blacks have been "the loser" for a long time...

Why is that?

Help me understand then, if blacks are just as well-equipped to succeed as anyone else then why haven't we? Why don't blacks have the same organizational skills as other groups?

We've been on this planet a long time, we were slaves.. So what? So were the Irish, the Slavic, the Polish. Everybody had to lick boots at some point...

True; blacks have had a lot of unfair breaks in America, but it would have never have happened if we had "our act together" in the first place.

And I think that if you want to talk in terms of the Civil Rights movement, I would even dare say that we could be much further along since 1968 if we pooled our resources and educated ourselves.

If we had half the drive, discipline and intellect of the Chinese we could be the power-brokers of the 21st century...with the resource base of Africa and the U.S. at our dispense, but we choose to be foot-shuffling no-accounts that blame "the man" for our woes.

Why do we lag so far behind in EVERYTHING? Is it how we're socialized? If that's the case then we need to start re-assessing what our culture truly is...

54. Re:Sessa
Sat, Sep 25, 1999 - 5:13 AM/EST
xx-cin-xx

Thank u Sessa,for agreeing with me.Yes maybe its because we are multiracial or biracial and so on that we tend to think a little bit different but i really don't see where the problem.To me a person is a person.According to the saying.if u cut me,won't i bleed just like u,and not green bllod.red blood.Also i do think that black people especially tend to judge people on races more,if they see a white and a black person walking down the street.Why is that?I have no clue,and i'm not trying to put down black people or anything but its true,they also tend to treat people like me differently as though its my fault that my mother and father had sex and made me.I really don't understand that.Please if someone would like to explain to me or something.

Xx-Cin-xX

55. Proteus
Sat, Sep 25, 1999 - 5:30 AM/EST
xx-cin-xx

Proteus,

U keep saying that you're proud to be black and so on but yet u keep on putting them down?Whats that all about?You of all people should know that the blacks are doing way better in this day and age and yes,they do have their faults as so do the other races too.Lots of blacks are succeeding today and as someone who is part black,i am happy to say that i like having black.Nothing wrong with that.There's nothing wrong with being any particular race,yes being one race does have it hardships and blacks do have hardships.For one thing,lots of blacks can't get a job because 1.of their skin colour.2.their boss is probably white or so and he probably doesn't like blacks.Those are just some of the factors that contributes to these things.U can't blame one thing for the things that happens today.And the blacks do not lag behind in everything.Everyone has a brain and i happen to think that black people are very smart.For one thing they have the best fashion sense ever.Most of their music is great,look as Chris Rock said,who do white people come ten years later trying to do something that they blacks have been doing for a long time now.Example,with the rapping and so on,the bringing together rapping and rock together.Bands like Limp Bizkit,Korn,Rage against the machine,all of those bands i am a big fan of.And the clothes.So u see Proteus,u're talking as thoough blacks are good for nothing.sheesh.

Xx-Cin-xX

56. I Surrender!
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 - 11:39 AM/EST

Alright ladies,

I've read and re-read your posts and I've come to the conclusion that even if I COULD convince you of some things, I wouldn't WANT to...

Nothing constructive can come of it, anyway...

But I'd like to ad that some of the harshest condemnations ever made towards blacks came from the mouths of:

Fredrick Douglas

W.E.B. DuBois

G.W. Carver

Malcom X

Martin Luther King

Rather than make excuses for their kinsmen, they subjected them to the sharpest scrutiny.

Until blacks can assume a leadership role on the world stage, and stand as monuments to technological genius (instead of athleticism and entertainment). I've got to sneeze at them...

57. xx-cin-xx
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 - 12:51 PM/EST

YES!!!! I did not ask my parents to meet, fall in love, get married, and make me b/c of their love!! I had nothing to do with it, yet some people act as if we had a say in the whole process. We didn't! Did they have a say in being white or black or purple and red stripes? NO!!! I have talke with people about it...and the only reasoning we could come up with is this: There is this misconception that bi/multiracial people think they are superior...and people look down on us b/c of that. I don't think we're superior...I think that maybe some of us show that we are proud of who we are...but there is no superiority. That's all anyone can come up with, though...any better ideas?

58. Here's an idea
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 - 2:23 PM/EST

I think most blacks subconsciously feel that bi-racial people are superior or that they have the best of both worlds (which of course, isn't true).

They get racism from BOTH sides.

But in all actuality, the bi-racial person DOES represent what is generally viewed as the "best" that blacks have to offer...

Look at popular culture (The Cosby Show). Our society teaches us that "pure bred" blacks are less desireable.

59. Re:To Sessa
Thu, Sep 30, 1999 - 5:03 PM/EST
xx-cin-xx

Yes Sessa,It wasn't our fault that our parents fell in love & made us.It wasn't our faults that they didn't think that even though they are of different skin colours & backgrounds that they can't fall in love.Its the same for pure blacks or pure whites or whatever your race is.It wasn't your fault that your parents fell in love with someone of their own race so please people,don't judge anyone like that.I'm from Guyana South America,& the majority of people living there are blacks & east-indians.Over there the blacks hate most of the east-indians & the east-indians hate most of the blacks too.Both of those races too hate native people.People who are mixed,has it a bit better.They have a special name for us mixed people,they call us doglas.I don't know why they call us that but they do its not an insulting name they just do.When i was in high school some blacks & east-indians never wanted to be my friends because i was mixed.I don't know why because I certainly do not think that i'm superior over anyone,i love being multiracial,i like having over five races in me,why?because i feel that it somehow connects me to everyone in the world.One of my closest friends(who is black) told me one day that she thinks that i will marry a white or portuguese man and that always in my life i would be treated better than a pure black or east-indian .I was stunned at this because i have been attracted to lots of people from different races.It didn't matter.I asked her why and she said because i had lighter skin colour & that i had curly hair,& that i was of white & portuguese decent & stuff like that & that most of my closest friends were of either white or portuguese.I was mad but after a while i talked it over with her & i kind of got her point of view.I guess she was saying this because she knew from experience that some people didn't like her because she was black and so on,& might even deprive her of a job that she wanted just because of the fact that she was black.

Xx-Cin-xX

60. Repsonse to XX-cin-XX
Thu, Sep 30, 1999 - 6:41 PM/EST
nubianpeach

I just wanted to add that there is no such thing as pure Black. You stated that "I would be treated better than a pure black or east-indian."

I could consider myself multi-racial, although I classify myself as Black, considering that both of my biological parents are Blacks. My African ancestors having been raped by a White man who was of Scottish, Irish, and English descent.

Not trying to be technical, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people say that. Your other points were well-taken.

61. Re: xx-cin-xx
Fri, Oct 1, 1999 - 4:02 PM/EST

I understand. My black friends think that I will marry a white man b/c a majority of my friends are/look white. I don't choose my friends by color...I choose them b/c of who they are. The same with boyfriends...I grew up with people not wanting to be my friends(except whites), this may be conceited, but I think it's their loss...b/c I, as you are, a great person regardless of color.

62. Re:Sessa
Fri, Oct 1, 1999 - 7:38 PM/EST
xx-cin-xx

ha!haha!ha!Yes thats true.I don't know why some people think that but as u said it their loss.As far as i'm concerned i'll be friends with anyone that i want to and also have boyfriends with anyone of any colour.Its there own loss if they don't want to be friends with me or u or anyone else because of their own loss.

Xx-Cin-xX

63. Re:Nubianpeach
Fri, Oct 1, 1999 - 7:56 PM/EST
xx-cin-xx

Hii,

Yea actually i saw that mistake that i said about the pure black thing there.I do believe that everyone here isn't pure anything.So its okay for being technical.

Xx-Cin-xX